CRITERIA FOR EVALUATING USABILITY EVALUATION METHODS H. Rex Hartson1, Terence S. Andre2, and Robert C. Williges2 1Department of Computer Science 2Department of Industrial and Systems Engineering Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA 24061 USA hartson@vt.edu, tandre@vt.edu, williges@vt.edu ABSTRACT. 301 Moved Permanently.
Contents • • • • • • Biography Marretje Leenderts de Grauw was born probably in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands. Marretje died after 4 November 1668 in New York. She was the daughter of Leendert Arentsen de Gra(e)uw, who was probably born in Aalsmeer, Noord-Holland, Netherlands, and of Leuntje Alberts L(e)ydecker, born in Amsterdam. Marretje was married to about 1637, probably near Amsterdam. After Leendert Arentsen died, his land was conferred to Barent Jacobsen, 'one daughter being the wife of Barent Jacobsen.' The De Graeuw family immigrated to America in 1638 in the ship Dolphin. All the children of Barent Kool and Marretje Leendertse De Graeuw were born in New Amsterdam (New York City).
Marretje and Barent had at least nine children; some sources name ten children. The baptisms of eight of Barent and Marretje's children from 1640 through 1657 were recorded at the New Amsterdam Dutch Reformed Church, the records of which date only from 1639. DNA No known have taken an mtDNA test. Have you taken a DNA test for genealogy? If so, login to add it. Collaboration • to edit this profile. • Private Messages: Contact the Profile Managers privately:,,,.
(Best when privacy is an issue.) • Public Comments: Login to post. (Best for messages specifically directed to those editing this profile. Limit 20 per day.) • Public Q&A: These will appear above and in the. (Best for anything directed to the wider genealogy community.) On 29 Nov 2015 at 01:51 GMT wrote. The Benson Book says: 'Barent married Marretje Leenderts DeGrauw abt 1637, prob near A'dam.
Marretje was the dau of Leendert Arentsen DeGrauw & Leuntje Alberts. The baptisms of 8 of Barent & Marretje's children from 1640 through 1657 were recorded at the New Amsterdam Dutch Ref Church, the records of which date only from 1639.
[there follow 3 pages on Barent's life]. Barent arrived again in New A'dam in early 1638 on the ship Den Dolphyn, according to the 1645 deposition. His father-in-law Leendert Arentsen DeGrauw was on the same ship. Presumably, Marretje & siblings were aboard as well.
One wonders if Barent & Marretje's son Jacob was born bef, during or aft the voyage. Wow wurth software. [4 pp on Barent] Barent & Marretje were sponsors at a baptism in NY on 4 Nov 1668, the last record of Marretje.' On 22 Aug 2015 at 20:18 GMT wrote.
This profile has (in the data fields and the dueling biographies) her dying (1) after 4 Nov 1668, (2) about 1669, and (3) in 1670. What's the event on 4 Nov 1668 that causes that to be an 'after' date?
Is there a solid basis for any date other than 'after 4 Nov 1668'? Also, the 'after 4 Nov 1668' entry gives the death location as Amsterdam, which seems very unlikely. Does the Benson book really say that? (New Amsterdam is more likely, and Kingston may be more credible, seeing that the last child was born there.) On 21 Jun 2015 at 13:02 GMT wrote. Michelle, i give in easiliy on mere spelling issues! In this case it is not at all about spelling, but rather, regards the paternity of the children involved. The patronymic is based on the name of the father.
Therefore, if the father's name was Barent, no child of his can have the patronymic Jacobsen. That is the problem in the list of children in the first biography. The second biography, (from the profile created by me), has the accepted and known list of nine children based on church records. The list of children with impossible patronymics comes from an gedcom generated file with ancestrycom trees as its source. It is, alas, a serious issue of paternity, and of probable mistaken identity of persons, not one of spelling.:( On 21 Jun 2015 at 00:28 GMT wrote. Albertus there are many reasons why the names may not be exactly as you expect them to be. Wikitree is about collaboration.
With collaboration we fix mistakes and improve on profiles. As far as I can tell this is the first thing I've heard about the children issues. I'm the NNS Leader and a profile manager as well. Maretje and Barent are my 11x great grandparents so I have a interest in them.
People enter profiles unaware of patronymics and Dutch names. Most just spelled names the way they heard it. As You know New Netherland Settlers have numerous issues with what the correct spelling is. There are a huge amount of duplicates that we are trying to narrow down with numerous spelling variations making the process difficult and time consuming.
On 20 Jun 2015 at 20:31 GMT wrote. Albertus, as I understand patronymics, there is indeed such a thing as a double patronym, although rare. So Jacobsen Barentsen is indeed possible, and may be the explanation of what you are seeing there. So I would not jump to the immediate conclusion that it is worng. The way it works is that Apollonia Jacobszen Barentsen Kool for example is daughter of Barent, who was son of Jacob. The Dutch Roots Naming Convention sub-page goes into some detail about this double patronym form, as I recall.
CRITERIA FOR EVALUATING USABILITY EVALUATION METHODS H. Rex Hartson1, Terence S. Andre2, and Robert C. Williges2 1Department of Computer Science 2Department of Industrial and Systems Engineering Virginia Tech Blacksburg, VA 24061 USA hartson@vt.edu, tandre@vt.edu, williges@vt.edu ABSTRACT. 301 Moved Permanently.
Contents • • • • • • Biography Marretje Leenderts de Grauw was born probably in Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands. Marretje died after 4 November 1668 in New York. She was the daughter of Leendert Arentsen de Gra(e)uw, who was probably born in Aalsmeer, Noord-Holland, Netherlands, and of Leuntje Alberts L(e)ydecker, born in Amsterdam. Marretje was married to about 1637, probably near Amsterdam. After Leendert Arentsen died, his land was conferred to Barent Jacobsen, 'one daughter being the wife of Barent Jacobsen.' The De Graeuw family immigrated to America in 1638 in the ship Dolphin. All the children of Barent Kool and Marretje Leendertse De Graeuw were born in New Amsterdam (New York City).
Marretje and Barent had at least nine children; some sources name ten children. The baptisms of eight of Barent and Marretje's children from 1640 through 1657 were recorded at the New Amsterdam Dutch Reformed Church, the records of which date only from 1639. DNA No known have taken an mtDNA test. Have you taken a DNA test for genealogy? If so, login to add it. Collaboration • to edit this profile. • Private Messages: Contact the Profile Managers privately:,,,.
(Best when privacy is an issue.) • Public Comments: Login to post. (Best for messages specifically directed to those editing this profile. Limit 20 per day.) • Public Q&A: These will appear above and in the. (Best for anything directed to the wider genealogy community.) On 29 Nov 2015 at 01:51 GMT wrote. The Benson Book says: 'Barent married Marretje Leenderts DeGrauw abt 1637, prob near A'dam.
Marretje was the dau of Leendert Arentsen DeGrauw & Leuntje Alberts. The baptisms of 8 of Barent & Marretje's children from 1640 through 1657 were recorded at the New Amsterdam Dutch Ref Church, the records of which date only from 1639.
[there follow 3 pages on Barent's life]. Barent arrived again in New A'dam in early 1638 on the ship Den Dolphyn, according to the 1645 deposition. His father-in-law Leendert Arentsen DeGrauw was on the same ship. Presumably, Marretje & siblings were aboard as well.
One wonders if Barent & Marretje's son Jacob was born bef, during or aft the voyage. Wow wurth software. [4 pp on Barent] Barent & Marretje were sponsors at a baptism in NY on 4 Nov 1668, the last record of Marretje.' On 22 Aug 2015 at 20:18 GMT wrote.
This profile has (in the data fields and the dueling biographies) her dying (1) after 4 Nov 1668, (2) about 1669, and (3) in 1670. What's the event on 4 Nov 1668 that causes that to be an 'after' date?
Is there a solid basis for any date other than 'after 4 Nov 1668'? Also, the 'after 4 Nov 1668' entry gives the death location as Amsterdam, which seems very unlikely. Does the Benson book really say that? (New Amsterdam is more likely, and Kingston may be more credible, seeing that the last child was born there.) On 21 Jun 2015 at 13:02 GMT wrote. Michelle, i give in easiliy on mere spelling issues! In this case it is not at all about spelling, but rather, regards the paternity of the children involved. The patronymic is based on the name of the father.
Therefore, if the father's name was Barent, no child of his can have the patronymic Jacobsen. That is the problem in the list of children in the first biography. The second biography, (from the profile created by me), has the accepted and known list of nine children based on church records. The list of children with impossible patronymics comes from an gedcom generated file with ancestrycom trees as its source. It is, alas, a serious issue of paternity, and of probable mistaken identity of persons, not one of spelling.:( On 21 Jun 2015 at 00:28 GMT wrote. Albertus there are many reasons why the names may not be exactly as you expect them to be. Wikitree is about collaboration.
With collaboration we fix mistakes and improve on profiles. As far as I can tell this is the first thing I've heard about the children issues. I'm the NNS Leader and a profile manager as well. Maretje and Barent are my 11x great grandparents so I have a interest in them.
People enter profiles unaware of patronymics and Dutch names. Most just spelled names the way they heard it. As You know New Netherland Settlers have numerous issues with what the correct spelling is. There are a huge amount of duplicates that we are trying to narrow down with numerous spelling variations making the process difficult and time consuming.
On 20 Jun 2015 at 20:31 GMT wrote. Albertus, as I understand patronymics, there is indeed such a thing as a double patronym, although rare. So Jacobsen Barentsen is indeed possible, and may be the explanation of what you are seeing there. So I would not jump to the immediate conclusion that it is worng. The way it works is that Apollonia Jacobszen Barentsen Kool for example is daughter of Barent, who was son of Jacob. The Dutch Roots Naming Convention sub-page goes into some detail about this double patronym form, as I recall.